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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:30:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:WiS outside CQ isn't going to happen, unfortunately.
It will happen or CCP will lose another wave of subs who lose their hope or finally get tired of waiting of something what was tech demoed at 2008 already.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:42:00 -
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Sturmwolke wrote:Barakkus wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:
I play this game for the core Eve classic gameplay (as do most other players). Incarna, regardless of content, is just a side distraction - the icing on a cake. It will never be be treated as the core game because then you'll be having CCP maintain two distinct teams (due to the technical differences) to support & develop both features. It gets expensive. In time, they will have to choose between one or the other - from the cost vs returns standpoint.
They already maintain a number of distinct teams working on a number of different aspects of EVE, it's not just 1 group of developers working on everything. The context (if it wasn't already apparent) was Incarna related teams vs classic EVE teams. /me facepalms
You might be surprised how wide support the "real" Incarna concept in EvE community has. The reasons towards the hate for what we have now are more or less of it not being what people were expecting and for CCP ignoring FiS for so long time. Incarna itself wasn't the problem.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:54:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Aston Bradley wrote:And why not both?
The last two years showed why not. They cant. Even with more personnel.
Yep... I can't think any other company what would present playable tech demo to their customers, ditch it down to drain and start building new one from scratch, only to realize that the end product is total piece of junk :)
It really takes skills and eventually will make Incarna compete about the NukeDukem "forever"-title. Only few more years to go.
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.01.06 03:10:00 -
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Reduce quality by 75%. Make characters and environment 50% smaller. Remove roof. Zoom camera way out. Add playable content and multiplayer mode. No?
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.01.12 17:19:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:To add a little to what I wrote yesterday. I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy. The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-Št dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry) Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least. If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me 
I like what you say... now have some pizza :)
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:03:00 -
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It is really important that you put there something for the alliances and corporations to aim for.
I could not think any better carrot than upgradeable corporation/alliance quarters and accessories. This is where aur could be used but aur needs also to be made tradeable at least between corporation members.
If alliances could pimp their quarters, keep briefings there and offer some kind of entertainment for members, I think that the pvp community would accept the concept much more easily also.
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.02.24 11:15:00 -
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I would still like to have official good answer where did this end up to and why?
This entire concept and design was something many were waiting for instead of the junk we got now. Decent explanation would be in place. Is all this work really in /dev/bin now and beyond restoring? Just feels really bad to have working concept and product thrown away like this.
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.02.27 12:04:00 -
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RealaiX wrote:arcca jeth wrote:Everyone knows the forum posters are the vocal minority, there are lots of players that never even come here. and with some of the regular posters, i wouldn't blame them. if someone doesnt like your idea or opinion you get the trendy "Get Out" or "Leave my game alone" or whatever the troll/flamer feels like spouting off because they really just have narrow minds and think that they are the supreme know it alls and "OMGWHYDOESNTCCPHIREMETOHELPTHEMDEVELOPTHEIRGAMETOMYLIKINGSWTFBBQSAUZEIOWN"
there are a lot of players with different play styles and varying different views on FIS/WIS. Like the decision has to be ONE over the OTHER, nope absolutely cannot be BOTH.
CCP should do the smart thing, survey their subscribers/non-subscribers. I wouldn't rely on trolls for my information on what the players want. all the naysayers are buddies anyways, and they will just swarm here to counter your idea or suggestion just to pummel you with negativity, then say "look CCP, see, we don't want this!"
I am happy just to see the EVE Devs working on EVE, a game that I subscribe to with 4 accounts. I'm not playing for WOD and I'm not playing for DUST. In the end, if i see progress in EVE, whether or not it suits my game play preferences, I am happy none the less. indeed ! i was just about to write down something like this... i cant understand why there are so much troll/flamers especially against carebears or players who want WIS ! for the note: i never played a RPG but i know that i want WIS in EVE because i know both sides... pvp and beeing a carebear ! and who wouldnt enjoy playing a round of poker while camped at a station in times of war or at your pos waiting for orcasupport, fleeting up or something ?
WIS can be good, but as I've said few times already - there has to be something for the alliances and corporations to compete and earn for.
As general guideline I thought about upgradeable corporation and alliance headquarters visible to other players. AUR should be made tradeable between players and it should be used as primary payment method for such upgrades. This would give corps/alliances goals to reach and everyone could participate.
Upgrades mentioned above should be real. Not just face lifts like new furniture or new mirror. There should be additional rooms like briefing room, war room, private bar, private poker (games) room and so on. Obviously plenty of face lift items should be available for customizing every room.
In the end all NEW developers involved should get their salaries through the AURum sales and this wouldn't be avay from the FIS development. Item/room prices/selection should scale with single corporations and big alliances. Obviously biggest entities like goons would be ready to pay top AURum for totally pimped ally HQ and keep upgrading it always when new stuff arrives. Also many small 20 man corps would probably be happy to set goals to upgrade their corp HQ with some items or even private bar. Default basic corp/alliance quarters should be really plain... like 1 desk, 1 chair and plain corp logo above the DOOR.
This is WIS and PAY TO PLAY content what I can approve. Paying as group it much more fun than paying alone, specially if there is something to gain for all :)
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.03.10 15:34:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.
"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
I don't agree, we certainly do want FiS but that doesn't mean we don't wasn more WiS. I think a lot of us do! And leaving WiS as single player prison cell CQ is a reminder that CCP can't keep its promises. The interview makes it clear there is no plan in the works or even being discussed to take WiS beyond the prison cell.
So if you wanted WiS please post in this thread because I think a lot of us want CCP to deliver more of what they have promised use for years now.
DO NOT ABANDON WiS!!
LET US OUT THAT DOOR!!!!
Issler I bolded the part I want to correct. There is a plan. The plan is to take things slower than originally planned but also to eventually figure out a way for characters to interact in a meaningful way. We don't have a lot of details yet but we have a team working on WiS as per their recent dev blog Here's also a recent recorded interview with t0rfifrans where he discusses this among other things Well, we are convinced that you have a plan. But the news about plans for WiS are a bit like the news about the end of the world: they're less thrilling after each Last Day. So yes, we know you have a plan, and we certainly like that you have a plan, what else can we do? But you also did have such plans in 2006, 2008 and 2011. And, beyond plans, the factual reality is that you are not going to provide any meaningful gameplay to WiS at least until winter 2013, and we'll be crazy lucky if you as much as add social interaction to our prison cells earlier than that... say, summer 2013. Which means that your plan is to have a plan for well over a year, and that if the CSM and the special interests it represents don't interfere.
There shall be at least one additional 3d engine change and total /dev/binning of all existing stuff before space barbies hit the airlock @ 2020 nuke dukem forever style with roadkillish twist.
But hey... it will be worth the wait and makes good comedy about CCP's 3 step plan->create->deliver approach where third step always creates "guru meditation"-error and reboots the process.
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